An interview with the late Dr. Albert Ellis, who dragged psychotherapy forward decades with REBT

I stupidly became a psychoanalyst and did psychoanalysis for six years, but I found that was even more passive.  


"... people disturb themselves. They don't get disturbed; that's psychoanalytic nonsense. They disturb themselves largely by what they tell themselves, and they first take adversities, hassles, problems and the like seriously, which is good, but then they take themselves too seriously and lose their sense of humor. So we have many cognitive, thinking techniques, many experiential emotive, feeling techniques, many behavioral techniques, but one of the ones that overlap is humor because it's a thinking technique. It interrupts your nutty thinking, and it's a feeling technique and it's also behavioral. It pushes you on. So we give all our clients my famous group of rational humorous songs that rip up anxiety and depression and horror humorously, and they sing them to themselves when they're upset. Then they temporarily get un-upset but then they have the leeway to think about what they did to upset themselves and to undo what they did to make themselves upset." {Click for complete interview}


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